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sayeed0011 (October 30th, 2008 @ 6:47 am)

whatever my opinions and grudges, the tone of my responses has been unacceptable. i owe professor dreyfus and others an apology

sayeed0011 (October 26th, 2008 @ 6:24 am)

i am not accusing dreyfus of anything but *heidegger* knew asian philosophy particularly taoism. it's just a fact. look at the book heidegger's hidden sources by reinhard may. if you find any of my sayings fraudulent, offensive, i will not take offense. thank you.

sayeed0011 (October 26th, 2008 @ 6:20 am)

these discussions are the most frequent places where we find mystical talk in the zhuangzi....."we should never confuse this absorption in acitoin with cosmic enlightenment. no matter how much we hone our skills, we always come to "hard places" where we have to hesitate and focus on the problem, marshalling all we have learned for this new and unique situation. then we return to the flow..."

sayeed0011 (October 26th, 2008 @ 6:18 am)

this is an excerpt from The Complet Idiot's Guide to Taoism (from google books) by toropov and hansen, p. 39. "zhuangzi celebrates the notion of self-transcending skill. In his view, highly honed skills reach a stage where we lose ourselves in perfromance and "become on with" the world in which we act. during such activities, we seldom think about the rules we learned as acolytes. we feel ourselves "pulled" by the activity, not as someone making decisions or deliberating.

sayeed0011 (October 26th, 2008 @ 6:16 am)

and that means you'll do the appropriate thing at the appropriate time in the appropriate way, to talk like Aristotle. And that's being a master. That's the highest thing you can be."

sayeed0011 (October 26th, 2008 @ 6:16 am)

It's something that you've never been in before and the other people haven't been in before and you'll never be in it again because having been in it this time has changed you.Aristotle already saw that. It was lost, sort of, until Heidegger found it in Aristotle. Aristotle says if you keep acting and getting experiences and making mistakes and learning, you will finally become phronemos, a person of practical wisdom,

sayeed0011 (October 26th, 2008 @ 6:14 am)

hubert dreyfus and heidegger on skill: "So, what's fascinating about this is that for Merleau-Ponty (he's the first to see this), normativity, that is better and worse, goes down to the bottom of our experience. It's in our perception of objects. No philosopher, I think, had said that. When you're skillfully coping in flow, without thinking, without rules, your body and its skills are drawing you to get this optimal grip on the situation. And the situation is always completely concrete.

vertex21 (October 26th, 2008 @ 5:40 am)

Your comments are reckless and inexplicable. It is hardly noteworthy to say that Heidegger doesn't deal with the tradition adequately. People have been talking about that for years. What you somehow manage to completely miss is Heidegger's own deep engagement with the West's philosophical questions. The East has fostered a discourse with Heidegger's philosophy, but they are hardly as close as you try to make them seem. It's not even clear that can really talk to one another meaningfully.

sayeed0011 (September 23rd, 2008 @ 5:54 pm)

and more: heideggers caring for things sound too much like sensitivity to things (mono no aware) from japanese aesthetics. there must be a reason it seems that people from far east, who probably wanted to be validated by europeans when they met heidegger, have no problem understandng heidegger. for an evidence see any alan watts video from youtube and see how mysteriously similar what hes saying from what heidegger and dreyfus et all are saying.

sayeed0011 (September 23rd, 2008 @ 5:48 pm)

and the most damning thing about heidegger is that there is a substantial evidence that he ripped off taoism almost wholesale (you can call me a fanatic but i think its true). being in the world is a term from a japanese book (the book of tea by okakura kakuzo published years before being and time) on taoism, and heideggers main themes technology, nature, skill and flow, letting be etc is too bloody similar to be merely a coincidence or a cofluence.

sayeed0011 (September 23rd, 2008 @ 5:32 pm)

yes i admit to being fanatical in expresing my contempt and for that i apologize but explain to me heidegger dreyfus et al's caricature of plato and descartes-platonism has little to do with extolling theory over practice. platonism is about ethics, of living the right way. of following the good, not just be an expert and successful in the world. and their constant comparison to wittenstein or dewey etc just to make heidegger more respectable. no theyre not all saying the same things.

YoutibYoutib (September 23rd, 2008 @ 4:57 pm)

sayeed0011: Way to allow your own fanatical contempt for Dreyfus et al. to make you say stupid things. 35:35 and thereabouts is hardly a caricature of Aristotle for the sake of extolling Heidegger, since there Dreyfus credits Aristotle with originating the conception of skillful practical mastery which Heidegger took up and adapted to his own purposes. It's fine to think that advocates of neo-pragmatism are mistaken about all sorts of things, but that hardly licenses telling lies about them.