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alra1975 (November 21st, 2008 @ 6:51 am)

Can you tell us, please, the name of the historical Baroque organ that you said that you used to play?

alra1975 (November 21st, 2008 @ 6:49 am)

No one is impressed by fast playing on modern mellow-cheesy, bad action, horrible sounding electric pedalboards with radial shape: even kids can play fast on them. If you don't accept Baroque rules and style like Decoratio and Varietas, accept the reality: you like only the modern style, leave the Ancient Style to real Connoisseurs. You like McDonald's fast food (modern organs and modern style). Connoisseurs like the traditional restaurants and Cuisine (ancient organs and style).

alra1975 (November 21st, 2008 @ 6:44 am)

You are welcome! They are there for everybody, the two BWV 548 by Koopman are available for the whole world on the Organ playlists of my channel.

robertgift (November 20th, 2008 @ 5:45 pm)

THANK YOU, alra, for the links. (Why did my THANK YOU not post the first time?) Rather then PM me, why not post for all to enjoy?

robertgift (November 20th, 2008 @ 5:40 pm)

So, someone is unduly impressed by speed on the pedals? Does not impress me. Yes, I have showed-off on the pedals. Then played them at a proper tempo. Those who are impressed by speed miss the music. ["Every perfomance should sound always different from the others and with always surprising registrations: baroque rule."] Keeps from getting stale! But if I find an ideal, I like to repeat it. Surprises are fun and interesting! (Like the time I reversed the wedge!!) Yuck.

alra1975 (November 20th, 2008 @ 5:23 pm)

Remember: "JS Bach used to play faster with his feets than many could do with their hands". "He used to fly on the pedalboard". These are from historical accounts and period testimonies. Every perfomance should sound always different from the others and with always surprising registrations: baroque rule. - "It is pleasure to the human ear." Pleasure to your modern human ear. Taste changed a lot in the Centuries. Please study the ancient rules called Varietas and Decoratio.

alra1975 (November 20th, 2008 @ 5:19 pm)

Quoting from your comment from two weeks ago, here on this video: "I do use some Baroque embellishments, but not too fast tempi, and not heavy stop registrations." Ok, you play moderate slow and with easy registrations, that's not at all baroque, sorry for you. "show-off and rush", like Koopman? So it means that you play slow because Kopman plays exactly as it should be played for an exciting baroque performance...

robertgift (November 20th, 2008 @ 5:05 pm)

"... as you like to play slowLY, ..." Who says I play slowly? (My two complaints about Helmut Walcha are that he sometimes plays too slowly and carefully, and in the trio sonatas he uses too colorful stops in the manuals.) I won't show-off and rush so that wonderful intricacies cannot be discerned and enjoyed. (I could play the Gigue faster than anyone I know, but why ruin it?) There are ideal tempi. (In excitement I tend to play too fast.)

robertgift (November 20th, 2008 @ 4:49 pm)

I have played flat pedalboards and used heels to accomplish legato. Concave radiating is an improvement on old pedalboards too difficult to make. What is complex about 8',4', 2-2/3', 2 and IV Mixture? You can play with notes connected - not musical lines broken and fractured sounding like someone ran out ofingers. Fugue subject ornaments continued in the pedal is no "Rule". It is pleasure to the human ear. The pedal is merely another musical line. Why omit the trill/ornament there?

alra1975 (November 20th, 2008 @ 2:59 pm)

But what about your heels technique? If it was a real baroque flat pedalboard you could had not used your heels. With authentic complex baroque stop combinations with your modern fingering you cannot play a long plenum piece. "If an ornament is part of the subject, it should occur in every appearance of the subject - even in the pedal" I am sorry, this is only a modern rule. Modern rules never work with ancient repertoires.

alra1975 (November 20th, 2008 @ 2:58 pm)

Both 548 Koopman's versions available on my Organ playlist. Probably, as you like to play slow, you can play on baroque organs in your modern way. Let's talk again when you'll play fast as baroque style commands.

robertgift (November 20th, 2008 @ 2:47 pm)

I'd love to hear both versions of BWV 548. Are both here on YouTube? I have played real baroque organs. I can understand how Virgil could have had problems. On such organs I had problems with my fingers causing "squawks" by accidentally brushing against adjacent notes. I've never considered Fox "great". But he was so much fun! Regardless what was written and copied, if an ornament is part of the subject, it should occur in every appearance of the subject - even in the pedal.